Lastly, not sure how many people are thinking about this or its true extent, but in the southeast right now and possibly other regions there are large anesthesiology companies that are being contracted by hospitals and making the wages decrease. How demanding the residency is really depends on how you look at it. the hours are not that good in the begining or unless you do fellowship. just stop, [+]koolbro2012M-2 comment score below threshold-20 points-19 points-18 points 3 years ago (8 children). I think with fellowship you can almost eliminate any of these worries. Lots to think about and I think I might found my specialty! Prestige- some people want to take credit for doing surgery even if theyre getting paid less than the anesthesiologist. have a good one, [+]koolbro2012M-2 comment score below threshold-7 points-6 points-5 points 3 years ago (0 children). people hear that CRNAs are taking over and they think that means the entire field is going to die just like how pathology and radiology are going to become "obsolete". Will technology or CRNA encroachment pose any threat to practice? you have seen the light. I had already been considering anesthesiology for my career, but this experience helped solidify my decision. Should you wish to submit your own content, please consider buying a sponsored link from reddit. ._1PeZajQI0Wm8P3B45yshR{fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._1PeZajQI0Wm8P3B45yshR._3axV0unm-cpsxoKWYwKh2x{fill:#ea0027} If I had to guess theres a couple of factors-. I'm still learning and using this as a fun way to learn how to argue better. I'm a little baby M1 and nobody at my school talks much about it. [–]EtomidudeMD-PGY2 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children), Little off topic: What does everyone think about the recent (year or so?) As programs convert from AOA to ACGME, they leave the osteopathic match and join the NRMP Match. However, those hours can and often are still fairly intense. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. It can't hurt. Also, I would like to add that 'boring' is a fairly superficial misconception. After talking to some OG anesthesiologists, I'm very in favor of CRNA's as long as they know their role and what is most safe. and join one of thousands of communities. This subreddit is not a place to spam your blog or solicit business. It's probably the non-primary care specialty with the lowest emphasis on research for applicants, but that means just a moderate bit of research can put you at a decent advantage. There are big programs which may have more than 20 residents per class. There’s a lot of self selection, I think it only seems competitive because of that. It doesn't look like CRNA's will be getting independent rights anytime soon, and if they do it won't take long for people to see the light. I spoke with the owner of the other one and we decided to just delete the other and start fresh. Technology--no. Many are drawn to the high pay and good work-life balance that anesthesiology offers. in my opinion a lot of the worry about anesthesia's future is because of public perception of the job market without actually understanding what kinds of changes are coming. I hope to be posting here in 4 years as an applicant. it was only until a couple years ago that the ROAD acronym was still thought of as absolutely true. You may not recruit for your research study without prior moderator approval. My friends and I have fairly avg stats and have started to cancel some less than ideal interviews already. No one knows. Trying to Fix the Hyper-Competitive Residency Match — One proposed solution is garnering some support, and a grant by Joyce Frieden, News Editor, MedPage Today July 8, 2019 The future: I don't know. The highly competitive Ivy received over 6,800 applications for its entering class of 162 in 2019. yeah. unlikely. Will anything short of a complete overhaul of the system benefit FM salaries? If you want a career as an orthopedic surgeon, here is how competitive the medical specialty is to match into an orthopaedic surgery residency. Welcome to /r/MedicalSchool: An international community for medical students. Not as competitive as it'd be otherwise, I bet. Just keep studying biochem for now and remember to not touch the blue drapes when you finally get into the OR, [+]koolbro2012M-2 comment score below threshold-10 points-9 points-8 points 3 years ago (1 child). Do you think it's a conspiracy that all of a sudden anesthesiology is less competitive as soon as CRNAs began to get more and more independence? How dependent a department is on residents varies by institution--some departments have a much larger CRNA/AA workforce to a point where residents may be more redundant--those residencies often have a smaller class size. Very low. For information on rules regarding recruitment for research studies, please see this page. It can be very mentally fatiguing, especially if I've had hard cases that day. No. If there were a scarcity of anaesthetists (perhaps from pessimism related to mid-level encroachment), wouldn't basic economics suggest an increase in salary? is there uncertainty in the role of automation for radiology and pathology? do you think the public would look kindly upon a hospital that only staffs CRNAs to handle difficult pediatric cases? Note: I am only an MS1 and this is advice ive been given. But the specialty requires certain personality traits, DOs attest. is full independence a bad idea for CRNAs? GI is the most competitive post-IM fellowship, followed by cardiology, hemonc/pulmcrit (depending on who you ask). Got questions about this specialty. I want to do my own cases, so I will be doing a fellowship. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the medicalschool community. Anesthesiology is an advanced specialty and a good choice for any medical professional interested in technology, quick critical thinking, varying patients and work settings, and an occasionally high pressure work environment. This IRC channel is an entity that is independent of this subreddit listed here for the convenience of the community. People make the argument of mid level encroachment but thats been "a threat" for years now and their salaries arent going down. [–]ground_glass_enema 20 points21 points22 points 3 years ago (9 children), dude you have no idea what youre talking about so dont act like an authority on the trajectory of an entire medical specialty. I think that's also what's a strike against psychiatry and pathology. As an example I know a couple of critical care anesthesia guys who split their time between the icu and the or, they’re all pretty happy. It's a fee for service and Medicare sets the prices for basically every service. Here's the official Anesthesiology 2019-2020 spreadsheet. Healthcare is run like a command economy, e.g. Does it seem like a good chunk of students plan to apply EM at your schools as well? 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If you wish to contribute to the wiki please refer to this post and PM /u/FactorGroup, /r/medicalschoolEU /r/residency /r/osteopathic /r/premed /r/premeduk /r/medicine /r/FOAMEd /r/askmedical /r/MedSpouse /r/Pathognomonic /r/Scholar /r/MDPhD, /r/Healthcare /r/HealthIT /r/Cancer /r/Diabetes /r/Fibromyalgia /r/Optometry /r/GlobalHealth /r/EmergencyMedicine /r/Pharmacy /r/Nursing /r/UKHealthcare /r/dentistry /r/Podiatry /r/epileptology. Rendered by PID 28585 on r2-app-05c8dfa963d576864 at 2020-12-31 22:47:43.869551+00:00 running c709bd6 country code: US. Some programs start in the PGY1 year while some start in the PGY2 year. Classmates being really Covid irresponsible for a wedding of all things. If you go into anesthesiology and DO NOT want to do a fellowship, I think you need to accept the fact that you may end up in a job where you put out fires all day and make sure CRNA's get their lunches on time. Medicine isn't a free market at all. However, I don't see a decrease in competitivity in ophthalmology. Or perhaps informing patients to ask for their anesthesiologist to be a physician? Back in the day when you needed 4 MDs for your cases...today...you only need 1 supervising MD and 3 CRNAs...AND..the days of needing a supervising MD are probably numbered. mid level anesthesiologists are fantastic because they help reduce the case load for the MDs and can handle lowrisk/quick surgeries well. Do you mean neurology or neurosurgery? If you want a career as an interventional radiologist, here is how competitive the medical specialty is to match into an interventional radiology residency. Some are known to work you to the bone and others are known to send you home at 3pm to make sure you get your reading done. should be directed to the PREMED subreddit. Some of these were soooo corny. /*# sourceMappingURL=https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/chunkCSS/ReredditLink.f7b66a91705891e84a09.css.map*/. 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